Namaste
Sahaj is effortless -- For the fully established one in Realization they remain in the Sahaja Nirvikalpa State of Consciousness. This is when the mental drama of mind play has receded and simply and effortlessly Pure Awareness of that ever present Non-duality Is. If one has to hold it with intention then it's a state that comes and goes and is limited. Yes the mind stills and then what is opened when all deconstructs is the seeing of That which has always been present at the core of Being and at the core of the Universe. There are those naysayers of the rationalist crowd such as indiasparks and the rest of that ilk at nirmutka free thinkers. What is Nirmukta ?. In Realization there is Freedom in that all the formerly held ideas of Religion - God - separation - hells and heavens - and the rest of the projections have imploded into the very Simple Reality that cannot be denied. This is not something that one has read about and adopts as a blind belief system as those are not liberating but just another projection to keep one clinging to a set of ideas and dogmas. What amounts to keeping ones current set of ideas that keep one safe and unchallenged in the scheme of society -and ones social circle in place. Quantum is understood and known - the Factoid that the world projects from and is held in place by this 0 point balance of Pure Life Energy which is Ever Living and cannot be destroyed is discovered uncovered and revealed as a Fact and not a speculation. It is also known in a split second that the laws of the universe are in place simply due to the vastness of this unchanging IS. When discovered it is like Pure Intellect before knowledge occludes it. St. John of the Cross rightly said i have entered the Unknowing Beyond Knowledge. This can't be adopted as a philosophical stance and cannot be comprehended or known for what it is other than by direct experience. No one can hand this to anyone -- Each must make this internal journey on their own. There is no one that is going to save you and no one that can run your life or accept it's consequences but yourself. So for the rationalists who are pissed off because you don't understand what is being said here and your big come back is to sit and mock and run to this forum to try and get my organization listed as a cult then i say SHAME on you... it is said here IF you are saying that you are Scientific Minded then i say do what i did and Make the internal Journey to Discover whether God exists or NOT. What is the Truth of the Universe ? No book is going to give you that knowledge. You are only reading about someone elses experimentation which will do little good in actually tearing away at the mental ideas and conditionings that you are attempting to fight against. How are these conditionings going to fall ? It takes more than just sitting back and putting forward school yard bully tactics... i as a Guru take stands Daily against these phonies that are conning people -- and am not popular for doing so. i speak out against the Catholic Church for hiding these pedophiles and will continue to do so. i speak up in warning against those so-called Gurus that present one face to the crowd and then live a life that bears no resemblance to their words. Am working towards wanting to see these societal abominations of thinking that *honor* killings are fine and that the cast system of higher and lower and separation is dissolved. So before just seeing the word Guru and going off on a tangent it would behoove one to First find out the facts what is being given here and how. Now as far as what is being spoken of in the Satsang videos and your requiring Proof. Can only point you in the direction of what Science is just starting to attempt to understand and uncover and YES i have volunteered and continue to be open to be a part of these types of studies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_causes_collapse http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/23/13 The 0 point that they are addressing and what Scientists are discovering is what is Readily able to be entered into and what is discovered Directly... This is why NOW scientists are starting to do studies in Consciousness. There are many volumes out there... So rather than wanting to make a mockery out of what you haven't experienced then i point you back to your own theme of PROOVE IT. The ONLY way it can actually be proven or discarded is through your own journey inwards. Do i have respect for Religious Traditions ? Yes to a point but also see that there are a lot of abuses -- a lot of societal drama being fueled through the twisting of scripture and through the ignorance of dogmatic systems. The Path of Spirituality should be aiming to free mankind of all the extraneous fears - and projections that keep mankind in separation and insecurity and still within the dark ages of superstition and negative actions. Did i take initiation into a sampradaya -- Yes -- do i uphold the Sancarachayas ideas in still advocating sati and more --- 100 % NOT... All identifications with the dogmatic and externalized forms of religious holdings are broken through when one enters what is termed Realization. The big important me deconstructs as a driving force. It is replaced with the Light of that 0 point balance that permeates the universe. Does this make one higher than anyone else ? NO --- All have that Same Eternal Unchanging spark of life within the only difference is here the blinders have been removed. That is all. The ridged holding to any specific religious spin is replaced with seeing the value and what the different reformers such as Christ who wanted to reform the dogmatic fallacies of Judaism and Buddha who when blown out into Nirvana (this unconditioned state of Consciousness ) wanted to reform Brahmanism - the caste system etc. And this is what happens -- when one implodes or opens into this awareness fully the shackles of the driving mind are no more... One then goes forward to simply say there is something to be discovered -- no one can hand it to you --- you have to be Responsible for your journey and actions - and the way is within. A Guru is a catalyst but its the seeker that has to make the journey and PROVE or Disprove the world - mind - God - and all that has been taken at face value... Now this is truly the way of the rationalist - the scientist and the man of God to not follow anyone blindly and to prove or disprove by Direct Experience. As the bible rightly Says BE STILL and KNOW. OM Shanti
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People have a mistaken notion that Sat Guru's are are looking for people to bow down to them. This is the furthest thing from the truth. A Sat Guru points the direction to bowing down within - and allowing the Grace of the Ever Present Eternal Source that is called God to be Revealed as ego is laid down before the Reality. This is why it is said What i AM you ARE. How can you find God within IF you project that it is somehow locked up in some embodied person. God is Spirit. It is not this specific form you are seeing with your eyes. Any Guru that says they are a God or The God and that you are needing to cling to them to be saved is in delusion. That which you seek is Equally within you as it IS within the Guru sitting before you. You take the Guru to be a person within some elevated state - but again that is another projection as this Consciousness may be entered as one is drawn within to the Heart of their own Being. It is like the bible says the scales fall from the eyes and what was hidden is seen. In the twinkling of an eye. The Guru works to aide in pointing you towards within. To help you to Surrender within not to some external persona that is seen with the eyes, but to that Ever Present Truth of Being that has never been owned by any. You are NOT the limited finite body ultimately - Nor the conditioned mind that drives one in circles and suffering without that Spark of Life and that eternal Breath one would have no life. The journey is to discover and uncover That which has always been eternally Present. Whole and Complete. A Sat Guru is simply a catalyst for your journey H-0m-e. OM Shanti Namaste
Since when is spirituality and the path to seeking the Truth of God and Existence a negative thing ? When you come across the *** Free thinkers in India*** Since when is Seeking the Truth of Existence through Direct Experience against being a Free thinker ? And with the name of Nirmukta - Mukta Being Liberation one would think that Liberation would point to Actually Discovering and Uncovering through Direct Knowing. This is not about adopting a belief system but in no longer running and seeking something outside of ones self. One Has to stop and face what is here Now. This path isn't about looking outside to be saved by some personality or some God. It takes finally taking a stand and not buying into the mental and emotional drama that has run ones life and continues to run the conditioned mind. This is NOT about constructing new conditions and better conditions and belief systems. While this is a spiritual path it is not one of dogmas nor any of the other things that people may want to assume it is. NOW apparently anything that smacks of spirituality is anathema. So where is the free thought in that ? Now it's quite fine for them to disagree with this path NOT a Problem. Enjoy your opinion. But what IS objected to is when things are taken out of context and twisted to appear to be other than what it is. If the link is followed you will find that he has listed this path as New Age. Now ANY that know anything at all about this path KNOW that New Age is the furthest thing from what is being given here... If this path was New Age would be clamouring to speak at the new age conventions but that NEVER takes place... This being said lets look at what has been posted. Namaste Since when is this path a New Age religion ? This path is a Kundalini path that is going forward to Realization -- so since when is that new age ? i don't mind that they want to disagree with this path - but when things are taken out of context and they want to make it seem to be other than what it is -- THAT is objected to... OM Shanti Here is what was posted at the Nirmukta freethought community by the moderator Sajit. NOTICE : this was taken off my website and out of context making it appear to be other than what it is.... Guru Swami G http://www.guruswamig.com/howtocontactguru.html DO NOT SEND T HE QUESTION AND THINK THAT GURU-G WILL SIMPLY ANSWER IT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF COMPENSATION FOR TIME AND EXPERTISE... YOUR MAIL WILL BE DELET. The Nirmukta Freethought Community... - http://nirmukta.net/User-hdongilberth Here is my post and answer to this happening. Namaste -- You have posted this here why ? Please Don't take things off my website out of context. If you are going to post this here then perhaps ask WHY this policy is in place. This is for those who are NOT students on this path. For those who want to ask 50 questions and have no intentions on going forward on any path. This is for those who write and want you to evaluate their whole life histories. Their questions are endless and the time that could be dedicated to those who Actually want to progress is taken up with those who simply are looking for easy answers. The internal quest takes dedication to look within rather than looking for a quick fix. It takes no longer running and stopping to see what is Actually going on versus what ones projection about the events are. The students DO have full access to ask any questions and get aide at any time gratis... All is given by donation and none are turned away for lack of funds. The way you post this out of context makes it seem other than what it is - that is not being honest with what is actually taking place. This being the case am asking that it be removed as am guaranteeing that none here are going to do anything more than look for something to say see there another fake and fraud. While you may not agree with this path - and that is quite fine. What is objected to is the fact that things are being taken out of context and therefore why this is being done is being lost in the translation. If you want to know why this had to finally be instrumented then ASK. Have been giving 100 % gratis for 10 years. There is unfortunately only so much energy and time in the day and WHEN you are working one to one with all of the Sadhaka's on this path there is precious little time to give to those who have no interest other than just a passing fancy .. Again you don't have to agree with this path -- but don't misrepresent things. Love - Light Maha Shanti OM & Metta Namaste
It's amazing how immorality and integrity are so easily exchanged for that quick feel good moment. What has happened to humanity ? People not only do not value others but they also do not value themselves in the least. Have been asked about polyunions lately and don't people have enough problems on their plate just managing one relationship at a time ? Even if these are minus the sexual aspect, which in most cases is fully in play; there still remains all the jealousy and other emotional drama traumas of mental loops and hoops to be waded through. There could be so much turmoil avoided if just this simple pointing were put into effect and that is to keep sex on the back burner and find out what values - direction - and life partner reality this possible union may have. Sex comes and it goes and when one is being driven by the gonads of WOW am i ever turned on so this MUST be Love, it is going to do little more than keep the head spinning and the mind going and the body revved up until the newness wears off and that veneer of excitement is replaced with where did this godzilla come from ? OK you say but i am not looking for a life partner just a little fun. What is fun in the emotional turmoil that results when one discovers a pregnancy OR that they have received or given some communicable disease ? Or that one person is looking for a relationship ? There are so many dramas that arise from this besides once again being driven into justifications and seeking that feel good moment which is limited at best. When this driving force is taken off the table one seeks the higher things that can actually bring a steadiness and balance within. When staying body focused and seeking the external limited momentary pleasures which are so fleeting in nature you are doing little more than buying a ticket for a roller coaster ride that goes nowhere but in circles. If you go in circles long enough you wind up simply dizzy and without balance. In order to keep some balance in ones life - there has to come a time of integrity rather than the rationalization and justification of running after the momentary ME gratifications which can have so many unforeseen complications and devastating consequences in tow. People say that they are seeking a way to be more in control of their lives - and the FIRST step to gaining more balance is to start to step into integrity without justifying these activities which bring hidden baggage and chains of defeat and karmic consequences in their wake... Isn't it time to wake up ? Take the High Road, walk in Sacredness and Simplicity OM Shanti |
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