Guru - The Liberated Being - Moksha - Remains in the Consciousness of Turiyatita - Stilled Mind- aka No Mind - Beyond Thought - Direct Consciousness without Occlusions.
Empty Mind is called Turiyatita being beyond the state of Turiya - There are, according to Hinduism, four sates of Being.
Jagrat, Wakefulness, Swapna, Dream State, Sushupti, Deep Sleep, Turiya, Beyond Deep Sleep,- Consciousness. The Avaduhta Upanishad talks about beyond this Fourth State, Turiyatita.
Turiyatita is the stilled mind - Empty Mind -
Ramana's favorite text the Tripura Rahasya will clearly outline the states of consciousness and what is genuine Moksha or the liberated beings Consciousness - Yes it's the state of Turiyatita - Empty Mind - Stilled Mind
In Turiyatita State
The Consciousness of the Ego Identification is not;
In Turiya State
The Consciousness of the Ego that has experienced the Self
Through spoken word comprehended
In the Sushupti State that is Maya bound,
The Desire-potency to speak afterward exists;
In the Waking State and the Dream State
Experiences in ways diverse.
Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi often quoted from the Tripura Rahasya and considered it to be one of the greatest works explaining the traditional teachings of Advaita - You can get this text through Amazon. But it's not enough to read about it - logical mind cannot get there by thinking of it - nor by parroting it.
Or read the Tripura Upanishad and get a glimpse of the Tantrik path to Wisdom.
(The Path Through Kundalini)
Why the Silence, Why not Mind
There is a quote " Those that speak do not know and those that know do not speak" There are those that have reached that have tried to speak... but always must say there are not adequate words... you cannot describe That Which Is or the Constant or God beyond Form or the Source.... it is impossible.. many have tried but it becomes a lesson in futility... through trying the great works such as the vivekchudamani and the ashtavakra gita came into being....
now the answer as to why it is impossible....
Because the Word is thought... and word and thought are creation... and creation is duality... All words connotate form.... even those that state formless just give another quality to form.... Mind and thought create the Maya Realm of form and the transient... That Which Is the Constant is beyond all division and duality and form... So when you speak Maya comes into existance... The moment you speak you are separate from That Which Is...
So now how to reach.... That is why the Silence... inner silence... why emotions and mind and thought must stop.... only then will you go beyond the intellect... only then can you reach the un-reachable... only in the silence... when mind and thought stop.... then you go beyond to that which Is... then you go beyond the transient to the Constant....
In silence the world of Maya ends... in non-thought then true knowledge IS.... in Pure Awareness that which is Reality Is.... to reach you must be willing to drop the world of the transient that you have held so dear... the fear that you cease to exist is unfounded... for you will find that while that which is seen as personality ends.... you are One in the lap of reality... You are what the transient world proceeds from... You are the Essence of Existance and beyond Existance... then if you desire personality and form go for it... for you will find you are and have always been free.... this is Moksha... to finally understand that there is Nothing that you need freedom from.... that it was and is All only a play of mind in the ever-changing transient
realms... realms of desire and experience... The dream state of Maya...
realization is beyond experience.... although experience is the closest word of duality to explain Being in That... Experience has a beginning and an end... and truth has no beginning nor end... Self has never been born nor has ever died... although it sustains and gives life and meaning to form the experience of form does not touch it.... you are the perfection untouched by any experience of form and Maya.... just as you are untouched by your dreams at night... the You of Self is untouched by the Maya realm of dream and mind...
Go within to the Silence.... drop the thought... just observe... have no pre-conceptions.... Just BE!!!!
Those that know do not speak - for in speaking you call forth existence...
And those that speak do not know....
That which is is beyond conventional language and ideations of duality.
for in speaking you separate yourself into ego form and are separated from the pure awareness of Now beyond form and Maya.... In the Silence you Are - you cannot not KNOW when you are in rational thought and mind processess....
Stay in the silence beyond mind and thought - once you reach it is possible to stay in the silence... but be aware if desire comes you will once again drop into mind and Maya... but you will know that it is only a game... so have no fear.... Continue on dropping the illusions....
Love and Blessings
Greetings on this wonderful day of Resurrection –
..... as we find ourselves in the throes of time yet also beyond time in the eternal NOW.... ever beyond the limitations of this transient plane.... walking amongst those ever caught up in the webs of their own makings... ever gratefully free by the hand of God.... we are most fortunate of men to have been delivered by our devotion and love.... by our search and sacrifice for Truth....
we have faced the death of self and rose to the life of the Divine Awareness.... now where do we go? we go just where we are....
we remain just who we are..... open ever to the moving hand of the universal consciousness which guides and directs our paths..... resting in THAT ever present Divine Love.... the Bliss which unfolds when we let go of all our limited desires.....
Christ manifests each day beyond the mind of limitations.....
the words and the mind of Christ come when we are the stillness.....
Oh blessed life....
oh blessed death wear is your sting?
in death is resurrection and ALL dies to be reborn within this transient
plane..... people - ideations - ideals - plans etc....
all go through the cycles of birth - growth - maturity - death and
re-birth.... again and again.....
ever progressing forward.....
we are fortunate to be able to share that ever present truth with those that
divine providence puts within our path.....
it matters not whether i speak in terms of Advaita....
or in terms of the Christian Mystic....
it matters not whether i speak in the pregnant void of the Buddhist....
Truth remains truth....
crossing all mans boundaries....
all mans divisionary dogmatic undertakings....
We move as God directs...
ever in joyous union with THAT Divine Being beyond individualized
personality of mans illusions......
It is sad to see Christ limited to a religious persuasion....
stuffed into a neat little package of do's and don'ts....
a religious icon and pushed into a dogmatic corner.
To go from being the rebellious son (of mankind) that spoke out
against the church persuasions and dogmas of man with the
pure Truth of liberation for mankind.... to now be so
mis-understood.... to be pushed into the very corner that he
spoke out so vehemently against... This is a sad state of
affairs.... so may we my dear heart walk as a testimony to the
liberation found within...... the kingdom of heaven prevails.....
may we move in that kingdom on earth.... as it IS ........
Love and Blessings on this Easter morning.......
Since it is Easter morning it is a good time to take a quick look
at Christ and his message. What did he speak ?
1. Love - to love one another
if one is truly coming from the heart there will be no law
against him. love binds wounds it doesn't create them.
love is not mocking , arrogant, nor unkind. love gives of
itself without thought of reward.
if i speak with the tongue of angels and have not love i am
as a sounding brass. so a good indicator is does it come
from compassion and grace or not.
2. It is here now. he didn't speak of a far off heaven, he said
heaven is at hand. heaven and hell are states of mind.
not places in the universe although like minds will
congregate together on the other side which indeed would
translate to a heaven or hell or purgatory.
3. there is no death. he came to say and show that death is
4. if you want to get out of suffering then go and sin no more.
sin was an activity of body and mind if you want out of the
mire then don't chase it. he said basically go and sin no
more in other words drop it and walk away.
5. he hung out with the suffering why? he said the well have
no need of a physician.
why? the ones who are ill are usually
the ones ready to seek those that think they already have it
hear nothing but remain caught in their desires and pain.
not willing to give up anything they gather then cling to the
gathering. it creates a want for more and the cycle is
endless. always trying to fill a hole only creates a deeper
hole. Self Enquiry can show the fallacy of the hole until only
a Whole remains.
6. he showed a life of living truth and ethics with compassion.
7. he said if you have seen me you have seen the father that
in other words i am the embodiment of that
perfection. love, compassion, honesty, ethics , but make
no mistake his words were not always honeyed although
honest they were not brutal but on occasions could cut right
to the core and heart of it just as it was.
8. let the dead bury the dead . what was that about ?
those that are caught in their life will hear nothing - it is
useless basically he said don't go back to a useless
situation of being caught you come with me.
there is a way out but only if you have ears to hear and
eyes to see .
his message was that of liberation Now not in some far off
time. it was of love and surrender . it was of life, truth,
compassion. he said what i am you are. what i have done you
can do. anyone can come to God directly as there is no
separation this was clear with also the statement of i and the
father are ONE. Self Realization is this One.
Death leads to resurrection. it cannot be reborn from matter to
spirit unless it first dies. in other words completed man would
be born of water and spirit . Self Realization is to be done while
in the flesh . Death comes and rebirth to liberation and One
remains. Whole not hole.
Blessed Easter to All.
These are simply basics and not word for word but simply to get
an overall feel. it is simply to refresh the feeling of the message
he was attempting to share - it is just as valid today as then.
Which do you have *self* worth or Self Worth? The first is
based on the mask constructed honed and held in place by an
ego that seeks the approval of society aka others for it's self worth.
While balanced and grounded Self Worth comes from the Honest
Internal Integrity that has thrown the door open to genuineness.
A constructed image has a mask of fear at it's helm and with
that there is no peace. Society may judge and eventually abandon
but genuine Self Worth has a rock solid core which is unshakeable
and freeing. How can Honesty, Integrity, and Transparency that is
genuinely held to and walked lead to anything other than a freeing
up from the demons of a falsely constructed * self worth*.
When one rather seeks the approval of society based on an *image*
one is attempting to put forward as a false front and trying to hold
as a mask to the world then one is entertaining the demons of
unworthiness and lack plus a whole other host of nasty uglies behind
the scenes that are driving one in an unproductive circle of hurt. SELF
Worth needs no masks as the beauty of being a Genuine Sacred Being
is shining forth within the actions of Honesty, Integrity, and Transparency
of a simplistic nature. Now talk about going green. Holistic and you just
can't get any more pure and clean than that. Talk about a breath of fresh
aire. No constrictions - No games just Reality at the helm.
If you need to protect something in a less than stellar, dishonest
manner then HOW can one say they are living freely ? How can that
one claim any SELF Worth ? Are you kidding yourself and perpetuating
pain OR are you ready to turn a corner into meeting the Genuine Sacred
Being that you can be and ARE at the core level. Time to remove the
constructs of falseness the little white lies one engages in to keep
themselves safe. As there is NO Safety in them at all they are simply a
more extended prison of falseness.
The ego can want to make its self look good on paper or with the
neighbors or go along with the popular spin that is engaged in but
comes from anything other than what stems from genuine Self Worth.
Just look at the damage such as sexual impropriety which is widely
touted as just fine in society now. Look at drinking and drugging. Look
at the *games* and movies of violence being sold to children and how
do ANY of these things stem from or turn one towards genuine Self Worth.
The list is endless. The cheating your boss or turning a blind eye or self
justifying actions which one KNOWS at the core level is just simply not
coming from integrity. These things WILL grate on one and bring nothing
but suffering along with them. Do you REALLY want to continue to construct
a cycle of suffering OR are you ready to turn the corner to develop FREEDOM
and to find the key to take off the shackles you have constructed and weigh
you down ?
Guru may I ask you a question?
What is the question ?
Namaste the question is pertaining to childhood molestation not having a concious
memory of it --but being told that was--and having dark sexual thoughts. Is this possible?
Could ego be projecting out to people because does want to feel the emotions of molestion to heal?
So you are running your life around something that one has no direct knowledge of ?
and who has told you this thing ?
about 5 different healers
How was it BEFORE you heard this.
healers my foot.
they are perpetrators of illness
Why did you go to these *healers* to begin with ?
feared sexual illness i think was the underlying cause
* Feared * and this is based on what ?
See they took your fear and ran with it, securing a drama that had
no genuine relevance and put you in even deeper suffering ... and this is healing how ?
No Guru what ?
its not healing
it has put you in a mindspin
it has only secured this FEAR.
i do offer counseling
for those not in florida sessions are usually done over skype
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Am in the process of getting ready to write a book to revolutionize therapy.
will look into Namaste clarity much appreciated
Just don't run your life around a fear of something that has no genuine
reality. one CAN develop it into an ill-ness
there is no need to do so.
It's time to look deeper and untie the knots.